1 00:00:06,860 --> 00:00:04,700 good morning and welcome back to NASA's 2 00:00:09,190 --> 00:00:06,870 Johnson Space Center for today's mission 3 00:00:11,270 --> 00:00:09,200 status briefing its flight day 11 of the 4 00:00:13,250 --> 00:00:11,280 sts-134 spatial mission to the 5 00:00:15,740 --> 00:00:13,260 international space station and for an 6 00:00:17,419 --> 00:00:15,750 update of a recap of today's activities 7 00:00:19,609 --> 00:00:17,429 onboard the shuttle and station complex 8 00:00:21,439 --> 00:00:19,619 we have the lead space station flight 9 00:00:23,240 --> 00:00:21,449 director for the flight Derek Hoffman 10 00:00:25,460 --> 00:00:23,250 again we'll start out with the opening 11 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:25,470 comments and then take question okay 12 00:00:29,630 --> 00:00:27,810 thanks Kylie good morning everybody well 13 00:00:32,089 --> 00:00:29,640 as Kylie mentioned we're just wrapping 14 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:32,099 up flight day 11 as I was leaving the 15 00:00:37,100 --> 00:00:35,250 control center the the the folks in the 16 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:37,110 station side were just starting their 17 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:38,930 evening daily planning conference with 18 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:41,250 Ron Garan and the rest of the station 19 00:00:47,660 --> 00:00:44,489 crew we started out today with with dr 20 00:00:49,610 --> 00:00:47,670 aight inspection and of course the 21 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:49,620 shuttle crew uses the station of the 22 00:00:54,290 --> 00:00:52,050 Space Shuttle robotic arm grapples the 23 00:00:58,459 --> 00:00:54,300 orbiter boom center system and then uses 24 00:01:01,040 --> 00:00:58,469 that opss to inspect all areas of the 25 00:01:02,509 --> 00:01:01,050 shuttle thermal protection system the 26 00:01:04,070 --> 00:01:02,519 crew actually got started early on that 27 00:01:06,500 --> 00:01:04,080 procedure and thus finished early which 28 00:01:09,050 --> 00:01:06,510 was which was a great help on a pretty 29 00:01:10,730 --> 00:01:09,060 busy day allowed the EBA crew that's 30 00:01:12,140 --> 00:01:10,740 going to be conducting EBA for tomorrow 31 00:01:15,050 --> 00:01:12,150 to get started on their preparation 32 00:01:16,550 --> 00:01:15,060 activities a little earlier the the 33 00:01:19,700 --> 00:01:16,560 doclet inspection procedures were 34 00:01:22,250 --> 00:01:19,710 completed all nominally the data is all 35 00:01:24,590 --> 00:01:22,260 on the ground the expectation is that by 36 00:01:26,150 --> 00:01:24,600 the one o'clock mmt here in Houston that 37 00:01:28,940 --> 00:01:26,160 there will be a discussion of the 38 00:01:31,210 --> 00:01:28,950 preliminary results and the expectation 39 00:01:33,500 --> 00:01:31,220 is that within the next 18 or 20 hours 40 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:33,510 that all the imagery will have been 41 00:01:39,350 --> 00:01:36,210 analyzed and and the expectation is it 42 00:01:41,150 --> 00:01:39,360 will clear the vehicle give it a good 43 00:01:43,730 --> 00:01:41,160 clean bill of health in terms of the 44 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:43,740 orbiter TPS you may recall that the 45 00:01:47,090 --> 00:01:45,330 reason that we're doing this doclet 46 00:01:49,490 --> 00:01:47,100 inspection as opposed to the typical 47 00:01:51,980 --> 00:01:49,500 late inspection which is scheduled post 48 00:01:53,570 --> 00:01:51,990 undock is that on ebay for we're 49 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:53,580 actually taking the OBS s from the 50 00:01:57,140 --> 00:01:55,770 orbiter and stilling it on station where 51 00:01:58,550 --> 00:01:57,150 it will remain for the life of the 52 00:02:02,170 --> 00:01:58,560 station and I'll talk some more about 53 00:02:04,970 --> 00:02:02,180 that when i get into the EBA for details 54 00:02:07,490 --> 00:02:04,980 additionally today once that dock late 55 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:07,500 inspection is complete Greg shama Tov 56 00:02:12,259 --> 00:02:09,209 continued his work on the oxygen 57 00:02:14,750 --> 00:02:12,269 generation system on station we talked 58 00:02:18,259 --> 00:02:14,760 in my briefing two days ago about the 59 00:02:20,899 --> 00:02:18,269 that Shem Tov installed a filtration 60 00:02:22,640 --> 00:02:20,909 cartridge and some plumbing associated 61 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:22,650 with that cartridge on the oxygen 62 00:02:27,679 --> 00:02:25,290 generation system water loop in order in 63 00:02:30,770 --> 00:02:27,689 an effort to clean contaminants from 64 00:02:32,839 --> 00:02:30,780 that system today TAS did a final leak 65 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:32,849 check of all the connections he made 66 00:02:36,979 --> 00:02:35,010 verified no leaks and he went ahead and 67 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:36,989 closed up the rack and button up the 68 00:02:40,930 --> 00:02:38,970 system now engineers and flight 69 00:02:43,460 --> 00:02:40,940 controllers on the ground are going to 70 00:02:46,190 --> 00:02:43,470 reactivate the oxygen generation system 71 00:02:49,369 --> 00:02:46,200 and assess the performance of that 72 00:02:52,069 --> 00:02:49,379 filter cartridge let's see in addition 73 00:02:55,640 --> 00:02:52,079 of course the EBA for crew + drew boy 74 00:02:57,470 --> 00:02:55,650 still he'll be there IV or the person 75 00:03:00,440 --> 00:02:57,480 orchestrating the spacewalk from inside 76 00:03:01,819 --> 00:03:00,450 the station prepared for their EV a part 77 00:03:05,860 --> 00:03:01,829 of that preparation was swapping out the 78 00:03:09,170 --> 00:03:05,870 e/m use so it at the end a day will have 79 00:03:11,089 --> 00:03:09,180 mike fink's am you and Greg Shem Tov zmu 80 00:03:14,270 --> 00:03:11,099 both in the airlock ready to go for 81 00:03:16,339 --> 00:03:14,280 tomorrow CBA for and then drew Feustel 82 00:03:18,890 --> 00:03:16,349 zmu which he's done with for this 83 00:03:22,580 --> 00:03:18,900 mission isn't a configuration to return 84 00:03:25,460 --> 00:03:22,590 on the shuttle in addition of course to 85 00:03:27,110 --> 00:03:25,470 the to the setup hardware they did the 86 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:27,120 procedure review and they also got their 87 00:03:31,819 --> 00:03:29,090 their tools reconfigured and ready to go 88 00:03:34,759 --> 00:03:31,829 and as I was again as I was leaving the 89 00:03:36,860 --> 00:03:34,769 control center that the EBA crew was was 90 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:36,870 well ahead of the time line and just 91 00:03:40,819 --> 00:03:38,730 doing their final procedure reviews and 92 00:03:43,069 --> 00:03:40,829 discussions before we put them to sleep 93 00:03:44,809 --> 00:03:43,079 for the night additionally as we 94 00:03:47,180 --> 00:03:44,819 discussed yesterday we plan to use the 95 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:47,190 campout protocol for this EBA and that's 96 00:03:51,559 --> 00:03:49,290 primarily due to the issue that we had 97 00:03:55,550 --> 00:03:51,569 on EBA one relative to Greg shamba tops 98 00:03:57,740 --> 00:03:55,560 carbon dioxide sensor so we're going to 99 00:03:59,869 --> 00:03:57,750 put the Mike Fink and Greg sham top in 100 00:04:02,030 --> 00:03:59,879 the airlock overnight and then in the 101 00:04:04,189 --> 00:04:02,040 morning we'll repress the airlock bring 102 00:04:06,319 --> 00:04:04,199 them out give them time for breakfast 103 00:04:09,199 --> 00:04:06,329 and personal hygiene and then let's get 104 00:04:10,939 --> 00:04:09,209 them suited up and ready to go in terms 105 00:04:13,580 --> 00:04:10,949 of BBA forwards is looking ahead to that 106 00:04:16,430 --> 00:04:13,590 tomorrow as I said the first activity 107 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:16,440 involves actually stowing the OBS s on 108 00:04:22,300 --> 00:04:20,849 on the station s1 trust so the the OBS s 109 00:04:26,300 --> 00:04:22,310 will be positioned by the station 110 00:04:28,310 --> 00:04:26,310 robotic arm in a position that thinking 111 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:28,320 shama Tov can actually grab 112 00:04:33,380 --> 00:04:31,170 and place it on the on stanchions on s1 113 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:33,390 once we do that physical connection on 114 00:04:39,020 --> 00:04:36,330 the s-1 truss segment the EBA crew will 115 00:04:41,330 --> 00:04:39,030 translate to p6 where they retrieve a 116 00:04:43,970 --> 00:04:41,340 power data grapple fixture or PDGF 117 00:04:46,460 --> 00:04:43,980 that's not in use or bring that PDGF 118 00:04:49,580 --> 00:04:46,470 back to the OB SS remove the existing 119 00:04:51,710 --> 00:04:49,590 grapple fixture which is which is 120 00:04:54,890 --> 00:04:51,720 designed to interface with the shuttle 121 00:04:57,500 --> 00:04:54,900 arm and replace that EF GF as we call it 122 00:05:00,860 --> 00:04:57,510 with a station PDGF which can then be 123 00:05:03,500 --> 00:05:00,870 grappled by the station or at the end of 124 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:03,510 the EBA once all the OB SS related tasks 125 00:05:11,270 --> 00:05:07,050 are completed we're doing some work on 126 00:05:13,970 --> 00:05:11,280 one of the spare spdm arms that we 127 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:13,980 actually launched on LC three there's 128 00:05:18,710 --> 00:05:16,890 fasteners fasteners on those arms that 129 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:18,720 were concerned with the thermal cycles 130 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:21,810 on the spares on the external trust of 131 00:05:25,190 --> 00:05:23,490 the space station naturally expand and 132 00:05:27,530 --> 00:05:25,200 contract with as the thermal environment 133 00:05:29,900 --> 00:05:27,540 changes and past experience with these 134 00:05:32,810 --> 00:05:29,910 particular fasteners as indicated that 135 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:32,820 these type of thermal expansions may 136 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:35,250 cause wear and tear on whatever piece of 137 00:05:38,900 --> 00:05:36,570 hardware is associated with these 138 00:05:41,090 --> 00:05:38,910 fasteners so there we're going to remove 139 00:05:42,740 --> 00:05:41,100 those from the spdm arm in order to 140 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:42,750 protect it down the road and make sure 141 00:05:46,940 --> 00:05:45,330 that it's not damaged as it waits on the 142 00:05:50,150 --> 00:05:46,950 trust for potential use in the future 143 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:50,160 and I think Kylie that's it for an 144 00:05:57,740 --> 00:05:51,330 overview if you want to take questions 145 00:06:00,080 --> 00:05:57,750 ok I'll start here in the room hi Rob 146 00:06:02,270 --> 00:06:00,090 Perlman with collectspace.com with a 147 00:06:04,700 --> 00:06:02,280 couple of questions first I realized 148 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:04,710 this is a shuttle side thing but I think 149 00:06:10,670 --> 00:06:07,530 I heard a call about the shuttle crew 150 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:10,680 having an issue with their WCS and maybe 151 00:06:15,650 --> 00:06:13,650 with the stage using the station's WCS 152 00:06:17,690 --> 00:06:15,660 as well do you know what that was about 153 00:06:20,330 --> 00:06:17,700 and what the situation is the 154 00:06:21,860 --> 00:06:20,340 conversation probably related to which 155 00:06:26,840 --> 00:06:21,870 shuttle crew members were actually used 156 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:26,850 using the station w whs or basically the 157 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:30,570 station toilet when we when we fly the 158 00:06:35,420 --> 00:06:33,090 shuttle missions to station we have a 159 00:06:36,980 --> 00:06:35,430 pre-planned mix you know X number 160 00:06:39,950 --> 00:06:36,990 shuttle shuttle crew members use the 161 00:06:42,290 --> 00:06:39,960 station and vice versa and it's 162 00:06:45,710 --> 00:06:42,300 basically a balance between the two 163 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:45,720 vehicles and based on what we've seen 164 00:06:49,369 --> 00:06:47,370 over the past several days we made a 165 00:06:50,659 --> 00:06:49,379 decision to move all the shuttle crew 166 00:06:52,580 --> 00:06:50,669 members over to station so that's 167 00:06:55,159 --> 00:06:52,590 probably a conversation that you heard 168 00:06:57,050 --> 00:06:55,169 I'm not familiar with any issues on on 169 00:07:03,140 --> 00:06:57,060 either vehicle relative to the to the 170 00:07:07,249 --> 00:07:03,150 WCS with regards to the co2 sensor in in 171 00:07:09,950 --> 00:07:07,259 Greg suit were to fail while you they 172 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:09,960 were still in the airlock in preparation 173 00:07:16,279 --> 00:07:12,930 to go out for the EV a would that mean 174 00:07:18,709 --> 00:07:16,289 that an end to the EBA altogether or 175 00:07:20,689 --> 00:07:18,719 would you come in and try to reset it as 176 00:07:23,149 --> 00:07:20,699 it did before what would be the 177 00:07:24,890 --> 00:07:23,159 situation in that case yeah I'll say 178 00:07:28,450 --> 00:07:24,900 first that we know the issue with the 179 00:07:31,730 --> 00:07:28,460 sensor is moisture which obviously 180 00:07:35,390 --> 00:07:31,740 increases as a crew member works in a 181 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:35,400 suit in terms of perspiration so you 182 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:36,810 know I would say based on the failure 183 00:07:42,369 --> 00:07:39,210 mechanism it's unlikely to fail early 184 00:07:44,990 --> 00:07:42,379 but if it did we would press with EBA 185 00:07:46,879 --> 00:07:45,000 what we've done you know we've picked a 186 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:46,889 we know the capability that Litha 187 00:07:50,990 --> 00:07:49,050 lithium hydroxide cartridges on the 188 00:07:52,790 --> 00:07:51,000 ground and we we picked a lie out 189 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:52,800 cartridge with maximum capability 190 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:54,210 because they're not all created equal 191 00:07:58,189 --> 00:07:56,130 that depends on how they're packed and 192 00:08:00,200 --> 00:07:58,199 manufacturer on the ground so we picked 193 00:08:02,689 --> 00:08:00,210 a cartridge with maximum capability put 194 00:08:06,830 --> 00:08:02,699 in Greg suit something on order of seven 195 00:08:09,290 --> 00:08:06,840 and a half hours maybe more than that so 196 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:09,300 that if we were to fail that sensor and 197 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:12,330 we had to deduct the capability based on 198 00:08:16,339 --> 00:08:13,770 the failed sensor he would still have 199 00:08:18,399 --> 00:08:16,349 enough left to do the 630 EBA so we'd 200 00:08:21,589 --> 00:08:18,409 press without it and as we talked before 201 00:08:24,350 --> 00:08:21,599 we depend on Gemma top to give us 202 00:08:25,820 --> 00:08:24,360 indications of any co2 system and but 203 00:08:31,459 --> 00:08:25,830 we'd have the capability to complete a 204 00:08:33,469 --> 00:08:31,469 630 be a marker for aviation week I 205 00:08:35,180 --> 00:08:33,479 wondered on the inspection today it 206 00:08:37,339 --> 00:08:35,190 didn't sound like anything jumped out 207 00:08:40,909 --> 00:08:37,349 though I understand you have to really 208 00:08:43,670 --> 00:08:40,919 go through the data look like from what 209 00:08:47,269 --> 00:08:43,680 you could see in issue on the surface 210 00:08:53,580 --> 00:08:47,279 that there wasn't new damage I agree it 211 00:08:58,810 --> 00:08:57,130 Denise Chow ad space com Allison I think 212 00:09:01,300 --> 00:08:58,820 talked about some things that could be 213 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:01,310 done just very preliminary to flush out 214 00:09:04,570 --> 00:09:03,410 the co2 sensor I know it can't be 215 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:04,580 swapped out because the procedures 216 00:09:08,650 --> 00:09:05,930 aren't there but was anything done in 217 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:08,660 between EV a1 and now to anything done 218 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:11,090 to the sensor yeah we're in what we call 219 00:09:16,030 --> 00:09:13,850 it dry out procedure where without the 220 00:09:19,030 --> 00:09:16,040 crewmen in the suit we configure it such 221 00:09:21,460 --> 00:09:19,040 that we flow oxygen through the suit and 222 00:09:24,490 --> 00:09:21,470 pass that sensor and as a matter of fact 223 00:09:26,710 --> 00:09:24,500 when we when we powered up the suit on 224 00:09:29,620 --> 00:09:26,720 that day after the sensor was already 225 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:29,630 clear and was already added at a nominal 226 00:09:33,970 --> 00:09:31,970 reading so on its own it had already 227 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:33,980 dried out enough to recover but we went 228 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:35,450 ahead and ran that drive procedure just 229 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:38,450 to get some additional margin there and 230 00:09:43,330 --> 00:09:40,810 also how important is it that all the 231 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:43,340 procedures for evi for completed because 232 00:09:49,870 --> 00:09:45,770 this is the last EBA that's going to be 233 00:09:52,270 --> 00:09:49,880 conducted by a shuttle crew let's see on 234 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:52,280 the OBS s portion of it of course the 235 00:09:56,050 --> 00:09:54,290 the most important thing is that we get 236 00:09:57,940 --> 00:09:56,060 the boom handed off because other and 237 00:09:59,560 --> 00:09:57,950 stowed on station otherwise the boom 238 00:10:01,690 --> 00:09:59,570 goes back on shuttle and that's a 239 00:10:04,210 --> 00:10:01,700 significant impact we you know you'd 240 00:10:06,340 --> 00:10:04,220 have to look at 135 or perhaps not do 241 00:10:09,070 --> 00:10:06,350 the boom stow at all once we get the 242 00:10:11,170 --> 00:10:09,080 boom stow on station the actual 243 00:10:13,630 --> 00:10:11,180 retrieval of the PDGF from the p6 244 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:13,640 segment could be done at a later date in 245 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:16,610 theory bite you know bas stage crew for 246 00:10:24,070 --> 00:10:19,130 example without the shuttle present the 247 00:10:26,260 --> 00:10:24,080 the the fasteners on the spdm spare arm 248 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:26,270 that i mentioned because that's a 249 00:10:30,430 --> 00:10:28,370 thermal cycling issue and it's you know 250 00:10:32,050 --> 00:10:30,440 it's ongoing now as the station goes 251 00:10:34,060 --> 00:10:32,060 through its orbit there is some 252 00:10:37,180 --> 00:10:34,070 importance to getting that done sooner 253 00:10:40,450 --> 00:10:37,190 rather than later so if we were not to 254 00:10:43,030 --> 00:10:40,460 do that task these EDF fasteners on that 255 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:43,040 spdm that might be something that's 256 00:10:48,340 --> 00:10:46,730 considered sts-135 perhaps it has to be 257 00:10:50,830 --> 00:10:48,350 weighed against everything else that's 258 00:10:53,620 --> 00:10:50,840 planned but the power and data grapple 259 00:10:57,670 --> 00:10:53,630 fixture in particular with no near-term 260 00:11:00,040 --> 00:10:57,680 use for the OBS s no specific use we 261 00:11:02,860 --> 00:11:00,050 could live without that PDGF for some 262 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:04,360 okay now we'll start with questions on 263 00:11:10,090 --> 00:11:07,810 the phone bridge Charles a consensus 264 00:11:11,860 --> 00:11:10,100 Parcells a new place on smooth you can 265 00:11:14,490 --> 00:11:11,870 be calm I was wondering if you could 266 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:14,500 discuss the issue with a tu tu yesterday 267 00:11:20,170 --> 00:11:17,410 and will it be operational for landing 268 00:11:22,540 --> 00:11:20,180 yeah unfortunately not prepared to 269 00:11:24,460 --> 00:11:22,550 discuss the details of the failure i can 270 00:11:26,500 --> 00:11:24,470 tell you that it was a redundant heater 271 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:26,510 on a different apu than then we had the 272 00:11:31,030 --> 00:11:29,210 issue with pre-flight so no changes in 273 00:11:33,700 --> 00:11:31,040 procedure is required and we still have 274 00:11:37,090 --> 00:11:33,710 a fully functional redundant heater 275 00:11:40,060 --> 00:11:37,100 string available to us so you feel very 276 00:11:42,430 --> 00:11:40,070 confident going into landing with this 277 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:42,440 apu birds it going to be tested the day 278 00:11:47,380 --> 00:11:45,290 before landing now we'll manage the 279 00:11:49,150 --> 00:11:47,390 system the same no changes the way we're 280 00:11:53,380 --> 00:11:49,160 managing that heater system in the APU 281 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:53,390 and with with a single heater we still 282 00:11:57,010 --> 00:11:55,130 have all normal capability there's no 283 00:11:57,940 --> 00:11:57,020 issue with with freezing the lines or 284 00:12:00,579 --> 00:11:57,950 any of the other things that words 285 00:12:02,829 --> 00:12:00,589 discussed pre-flight and and the failure 286 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:02,839 on the failure that we did have was 287 00:12:08,340 --> 00:12:05,450 intermittent so we know for sure that 288 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:08,350 we've got a good redundant heater string 289 00:12:12,340 --> 00:12:10,970 okay thank you and one last one I was 290 00:12:14,290 --> 00:12:12,350 wondering if you could step back for a 291 00:12:17,490 --> 00:12:14,300 moment and share your own thoughts on 292 00:12:23,079 --> 00:12:17,500 Fridays final space shuttle crew DBA oh 293 00:12:27,699 --> 00:12:23,089 you know we should keep a few NASA space 294 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:27,709 suits also on the space station yeah and 295 00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:29,930 start with your last question first we 296 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:33,680 will will maintain a EBA or spacewalking 297 00:12:39,790 --> 00:12:36,050 capability on station for as long as 298 00:12:41,430 --> 00:12:39,800 station is on orbit and and we can do we 299 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:41,440 can do all the things that we can do 300 00:12:47,050 --> 00:12:45,410 relative to an EBA station only without 301 00:12:48,730 --> 00:12:47,060 a shuttle as we can with the shuttle of 302 00:12:52,210 --> 00:12:48,740 course the airlock is there it stays 303 00:12:56,769 --> 00:12:52,220 with the station will have enough am 304 00:12:58,990 --> 00:12:56,779 used to support it to two-person edas we 305 00:13:01,329 --> 00:12:59,000 have all the tools required we are 306 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:01,339 actually building up an inventory of 307 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:04,250 spare parts for the e/m use such at 308 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:06,050 we're in position on station to do 309 00:13:10,180 --> 00:13:07,970 maintenance on the M use that to this 310 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:10,190 point we weren't able to do you no good 311 00:13:16,390 --> 00:13:12,530 example is this co2 sensor we mentioned 312 00:13:20,130 --> 00:13:16,400 after Eva a one that we have a co2 313 00:13:22,510 --> 00:13:20,140 sensor for a EMU on board and that the 314 00:13:24,670 --> 00:13:22,520 that the procedures were in work but 315 00:13:26,590 --> 00:13:24,680 weren't ready and that's an example of 316 00:13:28,780 --> 00:13:26,600 the capability that we're building up to 317 00:13:30,790 --> 00:13:28,790 instead of flying the emu's home to be 318 00:13:32,110 --> 00:13:30,800 refurbished and repaired we're going to 319 00:13:33,910 --> 00:13:32,120 have the spare parts and the procedures 320 00:13:36,100 --> 00:13:33,920 and the techniques ready to go on orbit 321 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:36,110 in order to protect that capability and 322 00:13:41,860 --> 00:13:39,050 on station there's a number of critical 323 00:13:44,820 --> 00:13:41,870 components that require a pretty quick 324 00:13:47,830 --> 00:13:44,830 reaction you know a reaction in terms of 325 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:47,840 maybe 10 to 14 days in order to protect 326 00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:50,330 the station things like the external 327 00:13:57,100 --> 00:13:53,710 thermal control system main cooling pump 328 00:14:01,210 --> 00:13:57,110 certain key components in the power 329 00:14:03,370 --> 00:14:01,220 system so that what we plan to do is 330 00:14:05,770 --> 00:14:03,380 preserve the capability on station to 331 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:05,780 stage a spacewalk to change out one of 332 00:14:10,270 --> 00:14:07,610 those critical spares within that 333 00:14:12,340 --> 00:14:10,280 two-week window so short answer your 334 00:14:15,070 --> 00:14:12,350 question is will continue to do station 335 00:14:17,650 --> 00:14:15,080 to do ebas from station and we have all 336 00:14:22,210 --> 00:14:17,660 the capability that we have during a 337 00:14:24,790 --> 00:14:22,220 shuttle dock mission and that your first 338 00:14:27,340 --> 00:14:24,800 question you know it when I started 339 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:27,350 working the station program we were it 340 00:14:32,950 --> 00:14:29,810 was well before STS 88 to a when we 341 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:32,960 launched the first us-built piece of 342 00:14:38,380 --> 00:14:35,570 hardware the node one module and we were 343 00:14:41,950 --> 00:14:38,390 we were in that that redesign cycle if 344 00:14:44,110 --> 00:14:41,960 you will where every couple years there 345 00:14:45,670 --> 00:14:44,120 would be new ideas new thoughts perhaps 346 00:14:48,460 --> 00:14:45,680 we had to scale back or change the 347 00:14:49,990 --> 00:14:48,470 design and you know in that kind of 348 00:14:51,460 --> 00:14:50,000 period it can get a little discouraging 349 00:14:52,510 --> 00:14:51,470 and you kind of start wondering if and 350 00:14:56,590 --> 00:14:52,520 when we're ever going to fly real 351 00:14:59,530 --> 00:14:56,600 hardware but you know once we hit the 352 00:15:03,520 --> 00:14:59,540 hit the ground with SDS 88 launched the 353 00:15:05,830 --> 00:15:03,530 node module in 1998 looking back looking 354 00:15:08,380 --> 00:15:05,840 looking back at what the station was 355 00:15:10,710 --> 00:15:08,390 then two relatively small pressurized 356 00:15:14,620 --> 00:15:10,720 modules without a capability to support 357 00:15:18,130 --> 00:15:14,630 people to what it is now this just huge 358 00:15:20,170 --> 00:15:18,140 amazing laboratory with with the ability 359 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:20,180 to support 12 people for short periods 360 00:15:25,570 --> 00:15:23,170 that support six crew members long term 361 00:15:28,540 --> 00:15:25,580 and and the spacewalks that we 362 00:15:29,439 --> 00:15:28,550 accomplish it's just it we have come a 363 00:15:31,299 --> 00:15:29,449 long long 364 00:15:33,249 --> 00:15:31,309 way and it's an amazing capability that 365 00:15:36,460 --> 00:15:33,259 we built and I'm just proud to have been 366 00:15:39,609 --> 00:15:36,470 a small part of it okay and just briefly 367 00:15:41,949 --> 00:15:39,619 to confirm you will rely on just the 368 00:15:45,699 --> 00:15:41,959 Orlan suits you'll be using American 369 00:15:47,289 --> 00:15:45,709 NASA EDM use yes that's correct and you 370 00:15:49,809 --> 00:15:47,299 know it's a good point you make we also 371 00:15:51,429 --> 00:15:49,819 have the capability to do to do EV age 372 00:15:53,409 --> 00:15:51,439 using the russian air lock in the 373 00:15:55,539 --> 00:15:53,419 russian orlan suits we have a separate 374 00:16:00,099 --> 00:15:55,549 and independent capability using the US 375 00:16:02,079 --> 00:16:00,109 air lock two-stage emu based american eb 376 00:16:03,729 --> 00:16:02,089 ace if you will so I mean it's an EV a 377 00:16:05,619 --> 00:16:03,739 that will look exactly like the ones 378 00:16:08,220 --> 00:16:05,629 that that we've been doing this doc 379 00:16:12,220 --> 00:16:08,230 mission except the orbiters not docked 380 00:16:16,389 --> 00:16:12,230 thank you so much next is that Phillips 381 00:16:19,179 --> 00:16:16,399 one philipp fauth with NASA Space Flight 382 00:16:22,929 --> 00:16:19,189 com following up on Charles question on 383 00:16:25,780 --> 00:16:22,939 Greg's emu is for future Ed Hayes that 384 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:25,790 might use that mu is there any thought 385 00:16:31,569 --> 00:16:28,970 maybe in the short term to I to 386 00:16:33,970 --> 00:16:31,579 preemptively doing a flush of that 387 00:16:36,460 --> 00:16:33,980 sensor before you would go out to do 388 00:16:39,249 --> 00:16:36,470 that and that's certainly one option I 389 00:16:41,049 --> 00:16:39,259 would tell you that my expectation is 390 00:16:43,299 --> 00:16:41,059 that once we get this doc mission behind 391 00:16:45,099 --> 00:16:43,309 us is that there'll be a lot of focus 392 00:16:47,019 --> 00:16:45,109 and emphasis on the on the procedure 393 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:47,029 that we're developing the change out the 394 00:16:52,749 --> 00:16:49,730 co2 sensor so we do have a spare on 395 00:16:56,319 --> 00:16:52,759 orbit in the procedure needs needs work 396 00:16:58,269 --> 00:16:56,329 needs validation needs analysis but I 397 00:16:59,859 --> 00:16:58,279 would expect that to be the focus over 398 00:17:02,349 --> 00:16:59,869 the near term to get that procedure 399 00:17:06,340 --> 00:17:02,359 ready to go in at some point have the 400 00:17:09,100 --> 00:17:06,350 on-orbit crew change out that sensor ok 401 00:17:11,199 --> 00:17:09,110 thanks and could I do you have any 402 00:17:14,759 --> 00:17:11,209 general status on how transfers going 403 00:17:17,919 --> 00:17:14,769 and although status of the feeder work 404 00:17:20,949 --> 00:17:17,929 yeah the Sidra work is actually is going 405 00:17:23,860 --> 00:17:20,959 very well I told you I guess two days 406 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:23,870 ago that the the crew was able to remove 407 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:26,569 the the Sidra hardware from the rack in 408 00:17:31,269 --> 00:17:29,090 which it's normally mounted and we move 409 00:17:33,190 --> 00:17:31,279 that the Sidra their common carbon 410 00:17:36,060 --> 00:17:33,200 dioxide removal assembly to the gym 411 00:17:40,090 --> 00:17:36,070 module which is a good good work place 412 00:17:42,130 --> 00:17:40,100 on the timeline tomorrow is a number of 413 00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:42,140 hours of work to remove that 414 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:45,200 chool the bed or the cartridge that does 415 00:17:49,750 --> 00:17:47,330 the actual co2 absorbing we're going to 416 00:17:51,250 --> 00:17:49,760 remove that cartridge from the Sidra 417 00:17:54,610 --> 00:17:51,260 unit we're going to replace it with a 418 00:17:56,050 --> 00:17:54,620 cartridge that we brought up on on this 419 00:17:58,120 --> 00:17:56,060 flight on you left six and then we'll 420 00:17:59,440 --> 00:17:58,130 we'll actually wrap that up and 421 00:18:01,890 --> 00:17:59,450 reinstall the Sidra in its normal 422 00:18:05,550 --> 00:18:01,900 location I said tomorrow it's actually 423 00:18:07,810 --> 00:18:05,560 flight 813 so it's the day after the EBA 424 00:18:11,770 --> 00:18:07,820 because Taz and spank you're doing most 425 00:18:15,010 --> 00:18:11,780 of that work thankful for me and on on 426 00:18:16,450 --> 00:18:15,020 the transfer question going very well I 427 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:16,460 don't have the specific numbers but 428 00:18:24,220 --> 00:18:18,170 we're ahead of schedule and then fly day 429 00:18:27,010 --> 00:18:24,230 13 and 14 we wrap that up Thanks okay 430 00:18:29,470 --> 00:18:27,020 next on the line is Marcia Dunn yes I 431 00:18:31,870 --> 00:18:29,480 there RTF any idea what set off that 432 00:18:32,950 --> 00:18:31,880 smoke alarm a little while ago yeah 433 00:18:34,660 --> 00:18:32,960 that's a good question i didn't mention 434 00:18:37,060 --> 00:18:34,670 that but that was a little excitement in 435 00:18:40,690 --> 00:18:37,070 the middle of the night what we had was 436 00:18:42,730 --> 00:18:40,700 an onboard alarm and then an indication 437 00:18:45,910 --> 00:18:42,740 on our caution and warning panel that 438 00:18:49,150 --> 00:18:45,920 one of the four smoke detectors in the 439 00:18:50,980 --> 00:18:49,160 service module was an alarm looking at 440 00:18:53,290 --> 00:18:50,990 the data that it was it was quickly 441 00:18:55,030 --> 00:18:53,300 obvious that the other three smoke 442 00:18:57,430 --> 00:18:55,040 detectors in the service module were not 443 00:19:00,250 --> 00:18:57,440 showing any in any indication of smoke 444 00:19:03,220 --> 00:19:00,260 and then the Russian crew called down 445 00:19:06,100 --> 00:19:03,230 per procedure and / training to report 446 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:06,110 to MCC Moscow that there was no no 447 00:19:09,940 --> 00:19:08,210 visible smoke and no burning smell which 448 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:09,950 are the key pieces of information that 449 00:19:14,410 --> 00:19:12,650 we try to get from the crew in addition 450 00:19:15,910 --> 00:19:14,420 in that call the crew reported that 451 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:15,920 they're working in a compartment and 452 00:19:21,820 --> 00:19:18,530 service module where that smoke detector 453 00:19:23,260 --> 00:19:21,830 is mounted so what we assume happen is 454 00:19:25,300 --> 00:19:23,270 that there was some dust kicked up by 455 00:19:27,430 --> 00:19:25,310 the crews work in that area that that 456 00:19:29,770 --> 00:19:27,440 obscured the sensor briefly looked like 457 00:19:30,820 --> 00:19:29,780 smoke and caused the alarm which is 458 00:19:33,340 --> 00:19:30,830 something that we've seen in the past 459 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:33,350 the fact that none of the other three 460 00:19:37,330 --> 00:19:35,210 smoke detectors showed any indication of 461 00:19:40,060 --> 00:19:37,340 smoke in addition you know that the 462 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:40,070 nearby us modules also didn't show any 463 00:19:44,710 --> 00:19:42,290 indication of smoke allowed us to pretty 464 00:19:46,210 --> 00:19:44,720 quickly call it a false alarm and get 465 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:46,220 the system back at a nominal 466 00:19:57,749 --> 00:19:51,049 configuration thank you that bow from me 467 00:20:01,539 --> 00:19:57,759 next is todd halvorson thanks very much 468 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:01,549 Derek you guys are about to declare 469 00:20:08,139 --> 00:20:05,690 victory on assembly complete of the u.s. 470 00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:08,149 OS and I'm wondering if you could 471 00:20:15,519 --> 00:20:12,799 compare this accomplishment to or rated 472 00:20:21,269 --> 00:20:15,529 among other human engineering 473 00:20:23,799 --> 00:20:21,279 achievements Thanks that's a tough one 474 00:20:26,739 --> 00:20:23,809 you know it's tough because i'm biased 475 00:20:28,570 --> 00:20:26,749 haven't even lived through it and you 476 00:20:33,009 --> 00:20:28,580 know haven't participated in most of it 477 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:33,019 but you know when you consider the 478 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:35,450 capability that we've developed and just 479 00:20:39,159 --> 00:20:37,730 the the amazing things that you can do 480 00:20:41,229 --> 00:20:39,169 with this laboratory that we have on 481 00:20:43,570 --> 00:20:41,239 orbit now the numbers of folks that can 482 00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:43,580 be supported our ability to repair it 483 00:20:48,460 --> 00:20:45,769 when it breaks the the potential that it 484 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:48,470 has you know in terms of science and 485 00:20:54,149 --> 00:20:52,369 payloads and and other things I think 486 00:20:57,729 --> 00:20:54,159 it's got to be right up there I me not 487 00:20:59,619 --> 00:20:57,739 for me the the Apollo moon landing will 488 00:21:01,749 --> 00:20:59,629 always be the pinnacle for whatever 489 00:21:03,639 --> 00:21:01,759 reason just my personal perspective but 490 00:21:05,590 --> 00:21:03,649 I would certainly put the space station 491 00:21:11,409 --> 00:21:05,600 right up there with anything else we've 492 00:21:15,489 --> 00:21:11,419 accomplished thanks all for me and 493 00:21:18,310 --> 00:21:15,499 finally Irene Klotz online thank you I 494 00:21:21,639 --> 00:21:18,320 had a question about this final shuttle 495 00:21:23,889 --> 00:21:21,649 base dva in light of the station of 496 00:21:26,590 --> 00:21:23,899 course maintaining capability to do EV 497 00:21:28,899 --> 00:21:26,600 a's what's the significance from the 498 00:21:33,190 --> 00:21:28,909 station's perspective of having this be 499 00:21:34,899 --> 00:21:33,200 the last one let's see I'm not 500 00:21:36,159 --> 00:21:34,909 completely sure I understand it quite 501 00:21:40,269 --> 00:21:36,169 are you asking why we're doing another 502 00:21:42,310 --> 00:21:40,279 one on 135 no I'm asking from the 503 00:21:44,349 --> 00:21:42,320 station's perspective is it a big deal 504 00:21:46,810 --> 00:21:44,359 that this is the last shuttle base dva 505 00:21:49,659 --> 00:21:46,820 do you get something out of the shuttle 506 00:21:53,409 --> 00:21:49,669 crews aside from extra hands of course 507 00:21:57,489 --> 00:21:53,419 that you don't get from doing the epa's 508 00:22:00,789 --> 00:21:57,499 on station I see you know the one of the 509 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:00,799 differences between a shuttle dock 510 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:02,570 mission dva performed my shuttle crew 511 00:22:09,909 --> 00:22:04,970 members and a stage eevee a perform 512 00:22:12,070 --> 00:22:09,919 by the station crew is that that we have 513 00:22:15,490 --> 00:22:12,080 over the two years leading up to a 514 00:22:17,470 --> 00:22:15,500 shuttle dock mission we have almost 515 00:22:20,649 --> 00:22:17,480 continuous access to the shuttle crew 516 00:22:22,659 --> 00:22:20,659 and to the spacewalking astronauts so we 517 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:22,669 go through a very extensive and very 518 00:22:27,549 --> 00:22:25,730 intensive training process so as an 519 00:22:29,919 --> 00:22:27,559 example for the 4e VA's will have 520 00:22:32,289 --> 00:22:29,929 conducted on this dock mission each of 521 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:32,299 the crew members will have practiced the 522 00:22:37,419 --> 00:22:34,250 details and gone through the procedure 523 00:22:39,940 --> 00:22:37,429 in the neutral buoyancy lab on the order 524 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:39,950 of five or six times Ricci VA in 525 00:22:43,299 --> 00:22:41,450 addition to the neutral buoyancy lab 526 00:22:45,130 --> 00:22:43,309 training they will have done procedure 527 00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:45,140 walkthroughs and other tool familiar 528 00:22:50,289 --> 00:22:47,510 ization so you know that they have 529 00:22:52,750 --> 00:22:50,299 worked for multiple years to prepare for 530 00:22:54,850 --> 00:22:52,760 the specifics of the of the EV aids that 531 00:22:56,649 --> 00:22:54,860 we're going to go do on this mission now 532 00:22:59,950 --> 00:22:56,659 when you contrast that with the station 533 00:23:02,260 --> 00:22:59,960 crew member they have the same generic 534 00:23:04,090 --> 00:23:02,270 training so they have this the skills 535 00:23:07,690 --> 00:23:04,100 required to do the spacewalk they 536 00:23:09,340 --> 00:23:07,700 practice generic task in the NBL they 537 00:23:11,649 --> 00:23:09,350 have all the all the same generic 538 00:23:14,289 --> 00:23:11,659 training but they probably won't have 539 00:23:16,779 --> 00:23:14,299 done the EV a specific training that 540 00:23:19,060 --> 00:23:16,789 shuttle crew member will have done so as 541 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:19,070 an example you know when I talked about 542 00:23:22,659 --> 00:23:20,690 these significant failures on station 543 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:22,669 that we must respond to part of that too 544 00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:25,250 weak response period is getting the the 545 00:23:31,060 --> 00:23:28,159 station crews up to speed on on whatever 546 00:23:33,970 --> 00:23:31,070 task it is that they have to go execute 547 00:23:35,740 --> 00:23:33,980 so I would say that the shuttle crews 548 00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:35,750 have much more flight specific training 549 00:23:40,899 --> 00:23:37,760 in the end the capabilities are 550 00:23:43,690 --> 00:23:40,909 identical the station crews are going to 551 00:23:45,399 --> 00:23:43,700 have all the same basic training that 552 00:23:47,620 --> 00:23:45,409 shuttle guys do it just takes a little 553 00:23:49,149 --> 00:23:47,630 more time on orbit to prepare them for 554 00:23:53,529 --> 00:23:49,159 whatever task it is that we're going to 555 00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:53,539 ask them to go do thanks also just want 556 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:55,130 to follow up something from yesterday 557 00:23:59,470 --> 00:23:57,770 you said that you thought the that 558 00:24:02,470 --> 00:23:59,480 shuttle legacy shot would be available 559 00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:02,480 in about a week which is Oh probably 560 00:24:06,940 --> 00:24:05,120 five or six days later than I think what 561 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:06,950 we were initially told and probably 562 00:24:12,130 --> 00:24:08,450 seven days later than what we all want 563 00:24:14,169 --> 00:24:12,140 but given the updates on on on the 564 00:24:16,630 --> 00:24:14,179 recovery of that disk and the 565 00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:16,640 distribution on damages no updates from 566 00:24:21,050 --> 00:24:18,300 what I told you yesterday 567 00:24:24,290 --> 00:24:21,060 what I've been told is that at the 568 00:24:26,420 --> 00:24:24,300 photographs are in the Soyuz moving to 569 00:24:29,210 --> 00:24:26,430 Moscow along with all the other cargo 570 00:24:31,490 --> 00:24:29,220 and then they'll be processed just as 571 00:24:33,260 --> 00:24:31,500 the rest of the cargo is and then at 572 00:24:37,790 --> 00:24:33,270 some point we'll have access to those 573 00:24:39,530 --> 00:24:37,800 photos thank you and not on the UBS s 574 00:24:42,110 --> 00:24:39,540 transfer I think I know the answer to 575 00:24:43,700 --> 00:24:42,120 this but I want to hear it from you the 576 00:24:47,290 --> 00:24:43,710 reason why this is being done on this 577 00:24:51,470 --> 00:24:47,300 mission instead of 135 is class of a VA 578 00:24:54,290 --> 00:24:51,480 yeah you know with our capability to do 579 00:24:56,510 --> 00:24:54,300 for EVs and the OBS s work essentially 580 00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:56,520 consuming an entire EBA this is the 581 00:24:59,840 --> 00:24:58,890 flight that made the most sense one of 582 00:25:02,840 --> 00:24:59,850 the things that they're going to do on 583 00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:02,850 145 is bring home two failed pump module 584 00:25:07,700 --> 00:25:05,520 and you can't it's really not practical 585 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:07,710 to do both the OBS s and the pump module 586 00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:10,290 so 134 just made the most sense in terms 587 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:18,110 thanks very much ok that's all on the 588 00:25:23,300 --> 00:25:21,810 line are there any policy and we will 589 00:25:24,980 --> 00:25:23,310 wrap up today's briefing with some 590 00:25:26,450 --> 00:25:24,990 programming notes there was a joint crew 591 00:25:27,710 --> 00:25:26,460 news conference early this morning with 592 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:27,720 all the crew members onboard the shuttle 593 00:25:32,090 --> 00:25:29,610 and station so that will be replayed at 594 00:25:34,580 --> 00:25:32,100 nine-thirty a.m. central time and then 595 00:25:37,220 --> 00:25:34,590 the cruise go to sleep shortly so there 596 00:25:38,540 --> 00:25:37,230 will be a video file at 11am and then 597 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:38,550 the flight day highlights will begin 598 00:25:44,260 --> 00:25:41,850 airing at 12pm there is a space station 599 00:25:48,020 --> 00:25:44,270 flight director update update at 4 45 600 00:25:51,050 --> 00:25:48,030 the crew then wakes up for the next day 601 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:51,060 at 656 p.m. and again that's for the 602 00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:52,770 fourth and final spacewalk scheduled for 603 00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:55,110 this mission which is scheduled to start